SE EQUIVOCA MASSA ATACANDO A LA BOLSA, QUE DEBE DESASNARLO

 

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Ayer en el programa Animales Sueltos, en TV, Massa  vovió a referirse a la “renta financiera”. Preocupante el grado de desconocimiento que mostró el candidato a Presidente de la Nación. Una cosa es plantear una pequeña tasa para los depósitos y otra muy distinta  atacar a la Bolsa y a los inversores en acciones. Cabría exigir a las autoridades bursátiles un comunicado o “paper”, no para atacar a Massa sino de esclarecimiento.

i) Hoy a raíz de las distintas políticas de los últimos años, la Bolsa Argentina perdió posiciones no sólo frente al “hermano mayor”, Brasil, sino ante la del Perú, Chile y Colombia.

ii) Las empresas argentinas que cotizan en Bolsa son cada vez menos. Ni que hablar las que existían en la década del 60 durante la presidencia de Arturo Frondizi.

iii) Las empresas que cotizan en Bolsa están mucho más controladas tanto por la Bolsa, la CNV, la AFIP y los MINORITARIOS.

iv) A partir de este postulado, cuantas más empresas coticen, más se recaudará de impuestos

v) Si se defiende al minoritario, y hay incentivos para la inversión en Bolsa, menos gente mirará al dólar como alternativa de inversión.

vi) Es absolutamente falaz que los accionistas no pagan impuestos cuando poseen acciones. En esto Massa debiera interiorizarse más.

vii) Últimamente los agentes de Bolsa tienen auditorias constantes para evitar “lavado de dinero” (en épocas de cedines). Es por ello que le exigen a los eventuales inversores miles de papeles que muchas veces terminan en que el inversor busque al dólar ilegal y se olvide de las acciones.

viii) En fin, se podría seguir mucho más. La Bolsa tienen recursos para llegar a la Sociedad y aclarar este particular momento que se vive. Porque sino, “el que calla otorga”.

3.646 comentarios

  1. daniel

    suscribo en su totalidad , es verdad hector cuando uds dice , que la bolsa deberia dar un comunicado, adelmo por favor estos comentarios no hay que dejar pasar por alto , porque si nos callamos , si nos quedamos quietos , estamos tacitamente avalando sus dichos , por favor a las autoridades de la bolsa , porque en vez de terminar con
    las pocas cotizantes , no logramos que vengan mas !!! como fueron las decadas pasadas , tengamos vision de pais grande , y no de un kiosco!! saludos!!

  2. Adhiero en un 100% lo expresado, Héctor y considero IMPRESCINDIBLE que la Bolsa elabore un nuevo anteproyecto de ley de Mercado de Capitales que promueva el DESARROLLO del mismo y de las empresas cotizantes y, fundamentalmente, PROTEJA LOS INTERESES Y DERECHOS DE LOS ACCIONISTAS MINORITARIOS HOY TOTALMENTE INDEFENSOS CON LA ACTUAL LEY Y CON EL ACCIONAR IRRESPONSABLE E INDIFERENTE DE LAS AUTORIDADES DE LA CNV.

  3. Hoy salió publicado en La Nación la proyección de ganancias para YPF para el trimestre abril-junio 2015 por $ 2.387,5 millones versus una ganancia de $ 1.526 millones para el mismo pericos del año anterior, o sea con un incremento de los resultados positivos de más de un 56%, lo cual no se condice con la flojedad del papel en sus cotizaciones.
    A esto debemos sumarle el anuncio de compras de acciones de YPF por parte de la propia empresa por $ 120 millones pagando hasta un precio de $400 por acción.
    Realmente un misterio lo que está pasando con la fuerte caída de su cotización en bolsa!

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  4. Javier Aguirre

    Totalmente de acuerdo ya lo venia escuchando sin poder creer el grado de ignorancia de este pre-candidato a presidente, me llama la atencion porque tiene asesores economicos muy buenos, pero sinceramente no tiene idea de lo que esta hablando.

    Nos vemos , Javier

  5. lemagiscien

    En países serios y creibles la Bolsa es un lugar para que el dinero de la gente se vea resguardado y poteciado. Al contrario de echarle flit a los inversores se debería alimentar la participacion en empresas serias que cotizan en Bolsa, dando financiacion a las mismas mediante suscripcion y favoreciendo un mecanismo ordenador para la canalización de los ahorros.
    100% de acuerdo Héctor con el planteo compartiendo el malestar por la desinformación impensable en un candidato con pretenciones presidenciales.

  6. Pablo

    En los paises serios, USA, la renta financiera paga impuestos. Queremos vivir como en el primer mundo pero pagar impuestos de tercer mundo. No se entiende. Creo que en realidad pasa por la caida del motonauta que no dice nada y el ascenso del intendente de tigre – vean lo que fue la gente hoy en Matanza, bastion peronista-, que molesta a los que instalaron la falsa opcion scioli-macri. Me extraña de Tavares que sabe perfectamente que la renta financiera paga impuestos en el mundo civilizado.

    • Jesús González

      Pagamos mas impuestos que en el primer mundo y vivimos cada vez peor , Gobierno corrupto despilfarra los recursos.

  7. Sergio

    ¿Suerte para quien? Massa fue el unico que dijo que iba a hacer con los corruptos y con la campora. Por alguna cuestion le debe molestar Massa. La corrupcion es el pricipal flagelo de la sociedad.

  8. Tavares
    Author

    La idea no es descalificar a Massa que tiene virtudes. La idea es que en este tema esté mejor informado (tiene buenos economistas en su equipo) y que la Bolsa como Institución defienda a los inversores, a los minoritarios y a los agentes de Bolsa que prácticamente no pueden aceptar órdenes de compra con capital nuevo, ante tanto papeleo que no sirve para nada y alienta comprar dólares en vez de acciones.

  9. JUAN DEL REY ALZAGA

    Estimado colega, hace años que estamos en esto, nos conocemos del viejo recinto, me extraña un poco que le de tanta credibilidad a slogans pre-electorales caza votos, del volumen del mercado argentino se desprende que este no es un tributo que sirva para recaudar, la bolsa opera 10 millones 20 millones de dolares por dia, mientras en 1995 operaba 100 millones. Claramente no habria que preocuparse por esto, con gusto Hector tributaremos si tenemos 500 empresas ganamos dinero por que cambie el modelo politico economico, ingresan capitales y generan financiamiento a tasa 0%, y esta bueno que esos capitales dejen algo, tributando. Abrazo grande Hector.

  10. Tavares
    Author

    En la Argentina se tiene que llegar algún día a que la Bolsa sea una autentica alternativa de inversión para la clase media como es en los países centrales. También debe participar la CNV defendiendo a los minoritarios, lo que no hizo -una vez más- en el caso de Estrada.

  11. Historico

    De ninguna manera hay que dejar pasar frases desafortunadas y conceptos erróneos y expresados de manera populista porque a la mayoría de la sociedad no le importa ni valora la importancia de la Bolsa.
    Por dejar pasar y callar la sociedad y la economía argentinas están en el estado desquiciado en que se encuentran.
    Felicitaciones Héctor por tener la valentía de salir al cruce de ideas nefastas para el desarrollo de nuestro mercado de capitales que atentan contra el crecimiento económico de nuestro país.

  12. VICENTE HORACIO GAMMELLA

    ESTIMADOS COLEGAS Y MUY ESTIMADO H TAVARES, YO ME PREGUNTO?? COMO SE LOGRA LA INSTRUMENTACIÓN DE UN IMPUESTO A LA RENTA FINANCIERA, PARTIENDO DESDE DONDE… Y SI SE PIERDE EN OPCIONES O EN ACCIONES QUE SUCEDE?? CÓMO SE CONSTATA QUE UNA PERSONA GANA EN UNA OPERACION QUE PROVIENE DE UNA PERDIDA GRANDE EN LA ANTERIOR?? PARA MÍ ES UN DILEMA LA EVENTUAL INSTRUMENTACIÓN DE ESTE IMPUESTO QUE SUGIEREN PERO DE MUY PERO MUY DIFICIL INSTRUMENTACIÓN REITERO.. ALGUNO QUE SEPA Y ME EXPLIQUE COMO SE APLICA EN OTROS PAISES COMO EN EL CASO DE EE.UU. YO NO LO SÉ. GRACIAS. Y SALUDOS.

  13. Nicolas

    Casualidad. Aparecio publicidad del Banco de la Provincia de Buenos Aires en la pagina y esta nota que no habla bien del verdadero rival del oficialismo. Todos sabemos que Scioli y Macri son lo mismo. El nexo comun el testaferro de ella, Cristobal. Los K no lo digieren a Massa por que terminó en 2013 con el sueño de Cristina eterna y la chavizacion final de la Argentina. Lo ningunearon como a nadie y el tipo sigue ahi, preparado para dar la sorpresa el domingo y mas adelante.

  14. lemagiscien

    Casualidad. Apareció la publicidad del Centro Diagnóstico Rossi en la página junto a esta nota y muy sugerentemente ahí están Codoni y De Genaro y más aun Claudia Rucci y De la Sota.

  15. mirgorenado

    lemagiscien debe ser el mismo que por años daba manija en otro foro bursatil a banco macro. No podía pasar los 8 pesos. Vendio y volo Macro. Ahora dale que dale con los limones, el dia que las venda vuela hasta el cielo. Mejor cambiarse el nick a creer que somos todos desmemoriados.

  16. ALB

    Casualidad , estoy navegando con Google que cerró 1.10 abajo el viernes (625.6) y muy sugerentemente ahí está Larry Page y están achicandose en argentina ..hmmmm

  17. lemagiscien

    Esconderse detras de un nick “disfrazado” para bardear a la gente con inconsistencias gratuitas es un mal de la época.
    Pero ya dije que este es el espacio del maestro H. Tavares quien gentilmente da lugar a la opnión de los accionistas y lectores. No me prendo en la malicia.

  18. Luciano

    No creo que los asesores económicos de Massa hayan pasado por alto la estupidés de gravar la renta financiera. Pero lamentablemente como en tantas otras cosas, la gente ve con buenos ojos “les suena correcto” gravar la renta financiera y por eso lo plantea como propuesta. Existe un total desconocimiento por parte de la sociedad sobre la mayoría de los temas. Y así estamos…
    Massa como presidente no creo que lo lleve a cabo. Son espejitos de colores para los ignorantes que poblan este país.

  19. Jesús González

    Pero si la Renta Financiera en el caso de las acciones ya esta GRAVADA : se pagan bienes personales sobre los dividendos – la renta de las acciones – y ademas el desproposito de pagar como accionista el 10 % en concepto de ganancias de empresas que previamente tributaron el 35 % por el mismo concepto

    A mi Massa me parece el candidato que mas definiciones tiene en cuanto a la INSEGURIDAD Y LA CORRUPCION
    Terribles flagelos – pero en cuanto a gravar MAS a quien compra y vende acciones me parece hoy muy equivocado , La Bolsa Argentina es hoy un mercado muy deprimido para el volumen de país y lo que hay que hacer es estimularlo antes que atacarlo con amenazas de impuestos para deprimirlo aún mas.

  20. Jesús González

    Ademas si promete pagar el 82 % móvil a los jubilados y los juicios ganados por los mismos va a gravar tambien
    “la renta financiera” de las acciones que posee la ANSSES EN EL MERCADO DE CAPITALES como principal
    tenedor y afectar así sus recursos ?

    Yo no se se si la tenencia de la ANSSES se canaliza a través de una agencia de bolsa propia o de terceros que
    actuarían como agentes de retención , o sea no se si hasta acá esta pagando lo que si pagamos los minoritarios.

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