MIRANDO A LAS “INNOMBRABLES”-la nota de la semana-

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Asi como “todo llega”, habrá llegado el momento de COMERCIAL DEL PLATA  y de CRESUD ?  en COMERCIAL  después de un Concurso Preventivo azaroso, en el que soportó importantes deterioros que tuvo que corregir, parece advertirse ” una luz al final del túnel”. En efecto, se desprendió de Activos innecesarios y desarrolló otros negocios con mejores expectativas, los que deberán expresarse en el nuevo Ejercicio. La inversion en Cia Gral de Combustibles (30 %) le causó perdidas en el Ejercicio anterior atribuibles a ” diferencia de cambio” y “Costos Financieros” por la compra de areas petroleras en Sta Cruz. En este 1er Trimestre no existió devaluacion, las tasas descendieron y el petroleo se valorizó. Por otra parte CGC para concentrar y maximizar sus negocios vende sus participaciones en transporte y distribucion de gas en las que son minoritarios ( TGN, GASINVEST, GAS ANDES ARGENTINA,  GAS ANDES CHILE y TRANSPORTADORA GAS MERCOSUR). A su vez COMERCIAL completa la compra del 100% de PRANAY INVERSORA consolidando su participación en la construcción a traves de Canteras CERRO NEGRO que cuenta con Plantas industriales en la Provincia de Bs As (Olavarria, Campana, Pacheco) y en Córdoba para la producción de pisos y revestimientos cerámicos, ladrillos,tejas y vidrios de alta performance. Por el 35% adicional que adquiere de Pranay invierte U$S 6,4 millones en 40 cuotas. Ademas COMERCIAL capitaliza $211,5 millones en Cerro Negro.Toda una señal de confianza en el futuro cuando su competidora SAN LORENZO cierra tres Empresas.
El caso de CRESUD es distinto pero que tambien hace a su valorizacion bursátil. En diversas oportunidades señalamos que la virtud de Cresud habia sido la inversión en campos agricolas ganaderos, por su bajo precio más que su explotación. El negocio se cristalizaría si se vendían los campos.
Ahora el negocio bursatil es otro. Todos aquellos ” activos de inversion” valuados a precios históricos se revaluarán a “valor razonable” siguiendo las Normas internacionales  NIIF. Las propiedades de inversión al 31.12.16 ascendian a $52.914 millones.
Es importante señalar que IRSA  de la cual Cresud posee el 55.64% hará lo mismo. Para seguirla de cerca.
No debe desmerecerse la evaluación de SEMINO, especialmente por cuanto en el 1er semestre debió superar un incendio que impidió su funcionamiento a pleno. Hoy funciona en forma normal. En 3 meses ganó $ 1,1 millones, en 6 meses 4,2 millones y en 9 meses acumula 8.8 millones. Es posible que el resarcimiento del siniestro le agregue algo más que lo reconocido y que se beneficie del reintegro a la exportacion de harina de trigo del orden del 4%. No debe esperarse nada excepcional, sólo su tradicional buena gestion y su baja cotizacion actual.
Héctor Tavares

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  1. Miguel

    Muy buena nota, cuando leí innombrables pensé en CTIO. Fiplasto ya tiene sus activos valuados segun normas NIIF?

  2. BolserodelNorte

    AEN la mayor suba del día casi un 4%! Y llegando a los $7,90 dejando a un paso los $8 para mañana. EXCELENTE!.
    Manejando un volumen espectacular todos los días y dejándola cerca del MERVAL.

    Sin dudas ya la veo que va a ser la mejor inversión de este año.

    COME como dije hace rato hasta mitad de año no la veo subiendo, después de ahí dispara.

    CECO2 en cualquier momento se larga en busca de los $20.

  3. Ruben

    Excelente jornada..!!!
    Muy bien AEN q dije seguía la suba….
    Muy bien Agro q dije q salia …..
    Muy bien Pampa……q ya saben lo q pienso….
    Buen recorte de JMIN al cierre y bien Ceco q ambas también mencione,…
    En fin se termina el vto. Opciones y se viene una suba de la puta madre en nuestro Merval próximamente…!!!

  4. Ignacio

    Y no hay que olvidarse de CADO que entiendo sus campos tampoco están contablemente valuados a precios actuales de mercado.
    PD: yo también me ilusioné con oir algo acerca de CTIO.

  5. Raul Carlos

    No hay nada de la Innombrable número 1, Consultatio la peor inversión de mi vida.

    Con un silencio también se emiten opiniones, las recomendaciones las hacen para comprar, son pocos los que te dicen cuando es momento de vender, el silencio expresa que hace tiempo la opinión de los que saben lunga es vender Ctio debido a que no esta en su mejor momento.

    Estoy hasta los huevos en este papel de miércoles, aguardaré una semana a la asamblea para que Eduardo Costantini dé algo de luz a lo que le esta pasando a su papel hace meses el peor del Merval.

  6. recalculando

    lo vengo diciendo…PUEDE FALLAR !! :115:
    24 al 28.4.2017 incl. SEMANA MÁGICA de COME (EL 21 puede haber un adelanto)

  7. Héctor

    Hola colegas,

    Les anticipé el dia Lunes a las 09:00 en el foro del cohete AEN, hoy pasada las 11:00 (para los que se habían asustado por algunos pocos comentarios negativos de ayer) dije en el foro del movimiento de AEN en londres, retroceso en 38.2 de FIBO, el que la espera más abajo va a tener que esperar porque la corrección ya terminó a mi entender, ésto se va para arriba, y recuerden: no se dejen influenciar por algo que no tiene FUNDAMENTO!
    Usen sentido común!

    Slds

  8. fernando

    Chau opex… Con balance muy buenos por delante, y con varias noticias al caer, dado el atraso relativo que tiene me parece super factible q la mejor inversión de los próximos meses va a ser mirgor….

  9. budista

    Buenas tardes capitán!!!

    Buenas tardes General!!! Tanto tiempo!! Está ud. bien?

    Absolutamente capitán!! Estuve muy ocupado realizando estrategias para garantizar el triunfo.. Sin embrago, no pude encontrar ninguna!!

    Sabe el motivo General?

    Claro capitán!! Porque no hay estrategia que grantice el triunfo!!! La guerra bursátil es un arte…

    Entonces perdimos la batalla General?

    De ninguna manera capitán!! Estamos más fuertes que nunca pareciendo débiles…

    No entiendo General…

    Yo tomé el mando en la base física 3,08 y desde ahí venimos batallando. Ayer a última hora salimos a copar base física 3,20-22 y el enemigo viendo nuestro accionar retomó las bases virtuales 3 y 3,15 que le entregamos nostros a buen precio!!!
    Esta mañana y media tarde salimos a entregar algo de base física 3,20-19-18-17 y el enemigo nos entregó 2.330.300 municones de la base virtual 3,15 por centavos que nosotros habíamos gestionado la venta oprtunamente a un precio mucho mayor.

    Entiende capitán el arte de la guerra?

    Más o menos General… Es algo complicado. Pero la tropa quiere saber que pasará!!

    Nadie lo sabe capitán!! Muchos esperan que entre mañana y la semana que viene el enemigo termine de entregar la base física 3,15 pero no creo que suceda. Ellos están fuertes pero inseguros y nosotros con aparente debilidad estamos fuertes… Se viene días complicados capitán pero confíe en su General.. Desde 3,08 está al mando de la tropa…

    Confío General!!! Y ahora que vuelvo asaber de ud. más que nunca!!

    Gracias capitán!!

  10. Rodo del Central

    Q hago con colorin?
    Escucho recomendaciones. Perdí 20% en una semana. Salgo o ya la dejo y espero que suba?

  11. Manzano verde

    Hoy le vendí y le compré a Vila y viceverso. Terminamos en sumatoria cero y ya mañana salimos a cosechar si la pesca es buena. Tanto tiempo dedicado a la política y esto era mucho más fácil y no te procesan por cambiar papeles pintados por metálico. Argentina te amo.

    • BolserodelNorte

      Me suena a alguien que mal vendió y se perdió la suba de $4 a $7,90 y quiere comprar barato pero se le escapa el tren! Jajajajaja.

      Segui tirando pronóstico Warren Buffet que vamos camino a los $10!

  12. Pepe Argento

    Comercial sin plata se pone linda para meterle unos tiritos debe superar los $3,60 de mierda valores por encima la eyecta, la situación de Comercial mejoro mucho esta llegando a la adolescencia y se prepara para los polvazos.

    Cresud buena compañia pero manoseada como concha de trola no la dejan ser a esa reverenda garcha, Investor Day, Pajertor Day, revaluan hasta los pelos del culo de Eduardo Elsztain, y el pelpa no eyecta, sube por escalera y baja por ascensor. Al lado de otras mierdas no deja de atrasarse. A largo

    Semino me gusta tanto como la cola de Elisa Carrio, le falta fuerza para crecer y no la veo en el Directorio.

    Consulchota dejen de enamorarse de ese pelpa del orto, el gráfico esta como el orto alertando tendencia de largo plazo ajoba esta garcha de no dar un buen rebote se hunde en una tendencia de largo plazo de la que puede tardar meses hasta años en volverse a poner alzada.
    Mirarla arafue hasta que confirme que se puso alcista a largo plazo.

    Próximo miercoles tiene Asamblea, hasta que Eduardo Bostastini no se pronuncie sobre la venta cagadora no aumenten exposición en Consulchota, nadie sabe las intenciones de ese viejo choto y donde pondrá la bala cuando le digan porque mierda esta vendiendo cagando a toda la gente que le compra. Lo que diga ese viejo viagra eyectará o enterrará a Consulchota, para entrarle siempre hay un pelotudo que vende, para salir de ser pijazo es al precio que se puede lejos del que uno quiere.

  13. Daniel

    Buenas a todos,
    Les hago una consulta a los más experimentados, estoy metido en AUSO y ya se confirmo que paga 4 pesos por acción de dividendos en efectivo… Mi consulta es: no hay duda que va a subir muchísimo en estos días ya que más de uno estaba despistado o no informado, o estaban esperando la confirmación. Hasta cuando tengo que tener las acciones en mi cuenta para tener el derecho al pago? Con venderlas el día posterior al pago ya me hago acreedor de los dividendos ?

    Gracias a todos…

    • Héctor

      Estimado Daniel,

      Tengo entendido que son mínimo 72hs hábiles antes del día de corte (fecha pago). Auso paga el 05/05 $4,08 x acción es decir con que tengas los papeles desde el 02/02 serías beneficiario del mismo.
      AUSO llega a $92 en breve para mi humilde opinión, va a haber mucho volumen la semana que viene en ésta al igual que en OEST.

      Saludos.

      • Daniel

        Muchas gracias a ambos por la respuesta, él tema es el siguiente (me descolocó un poco lo que comentaste Hector que había que tener las acciones desde el 2/2. Yo estaba creido que con tenerlas antes de la fecha de corte de cupón (o sea antes del 2/5 o del 27/4 como menciona Leo) te hacías acreedor del dividendo. Me explicas si entiendo bien? Yo tengo papeles desde desde antes de febrero pero descargue y compre ahora nuevamente… Gracias nuevamente. Saludos

        • Héctor

          Perdón por la confusión que se generó estimados, ya estoy con la capota en low battery mode,

          Ahí ví justo el msj de Leo, gracias Leo por aclararlo tb.

          Slds colegas.

      • Héctor

        Estimado Daniel,

        Me autocorrijo, la fecha de pago es el 05/05, y le fecha de corte (a definir mañ) sería el 27/04 o el 02/05,

        Para ser beneficiario del mismo tenés que disponer de las acciones ANTES de la fecha de CORTE,

        Saludos.

        • Daniel

          Excelente Hector, muchas gracias!! Pero entonces, si mi broker tarda en acreditarme los dividendos, Si ya vendo el día 8 de mayo x ejemplo ya tendría igual los dividendos? Gracias y perdón x tantas preguntas.. (Aclara que opero con Banco Rio)

    • Leo1982

      Daniel, te paso los datos de la asamblea de hoy de AUSO:

      En la Asamblea del día de hoy se registró el pago de dividendos de $4.08 para el 05/05/2017. La fecha de corte (estimada) será el Jueves 27/04 o Martes 02/05, mañana se define (fecha).
      Fecha de acreditación 5/5.

  14. Oso

    Yo como un perejil me asuste con lo de la deuda y vendi aen a 6.80 . Pude retomar algo a 7.30 le ven recorrido o aconsejan comprar a estos precios ?

    • Kerpoo

      bueno… se puso un poco más parejo ahora… va a estar interesante… sobre todo si el merval sigue en ascenso…
      Exitos a todos!!!

    • Pepe Argento

      Me tenes las bolas por el piso, querés que te haga un pete buscalo en Rava.

      Sé quien sos para no hacerte pasar verguenza y todos te pierdan el respeto no lo diré, se te cae la careta. No me rompas los huevos, pensaba que eras mas maduro y inteligente, terminaste siendo tan subnormal como el.

      El Virgolazer es un lobo vestido de oveja, otro boludo que se le cae la careta, lean bien sus comentarios se hace bien el pelotudo pero se le escapan cosas que tipos que laburan adentro y de muchos años en el negocio solo conocen. Los dirige psicologicamente a donde el quiere y enseguida los mete a todos en su juego ignorenlo por completo, ese es un empleado de agentes encubierto.

  15. Reich

    Pido disculpas por adelantado, porque nunca utilizó este vocabulario y mucho menos con miembros del foro, pero por Dios que manera de leer boludeces sobre la “supermomia” de Come (sobre todo la mayoría de los “extranjeros”)
    El único que acierta y lejos, pero lejos:

    “BolserodelNorte
    20 abril, 2017 at 19:33 – Reply
    Así ya van a pasar casi 3 años !la gente ve que COME sube 1% y se desespera como si hubiera subido un 20%.. No confundamos deseos con realidad .

    Si llega a tocar los 4 vas a tener una avalancha queriendo salir. En mi opinión recién a mitad de año despega.”

    • recalculando

      a bueeee, “extranjeros”, yo saque la visa y me dejan comentar en este blog… ahora si COME no tiene chance de revalorizar, estas diciendo que tavares vende fruta? porque eso parece, la nota es sobre COME y los porques de una posible revalorizacion

    • LEMA

      Ni tanto ni tan poco estimado.
      Mas allá de las “boludeces” nadie tiene la bola de cristal y por lo pronto lo que vino haciendo COME no esta nada mal. Considerando yambien que hubo buenas chances para ejercer en estos precios.
      Tiene un atraso relativo y esta gastada ya como forro de lanzadores.
      Yo que tenia fuerte call de la 3.30 JUN hoy con la baja incrementé más y llevé 3.45.
      Poco para arriesgar mucho para ganar en un corto plazo.
      Por otro lado no es menor la mencion que hizo ayer y hoy don Héctor Tavares.
      Renglon aparte AEN que hasta fin de mes promete nueva trepada al parecer y va seguro al Merval
      Saludos

      • Pepe Argento

        Comercial sin Plata se bancó el vencimiento sin hacerse mierda, los pisos están aguantando las bajas y las MM girandose ascendente. Pelpa que dió señales falsas a cagarse, en esta ocasión se están juntando demasiadas señales positivas.

  16. Horacio

    Horacio y ariana77 20 abril, 2017 Unidos en un Frente para la recuperación de Eduardo Cardenal
    en el partido de los Bonos. ¡Urgente! que los bonos aumentan y nosotros aca dudando de que miercoles hacemos con los dineros de la acreditacion del Bonar 17.

    Hola a todos, al igual que Horacio me gustaría pedirle a Tavares si puede pedirle a Cardinal alguna nota sobre BONOS ya que con el vencimiento del AA17 somos varios los inversores que estamos en veremos y necesitamos contar con un análisis de lo que esta disponible en RENTA FIJA, u n panorama actual, en definitiva un buen consejo. gracias

  17. Chango

    MAÑANA NO VENDE NADIE, TODOS ESPERAN EL DÍA 28A, DÍA EN QUE PAPA NOEL ANUNCIARA LAS BUENAS PERSPECTIVAS DEL

  18. SIRTHOMASMORE

    AGRO. ¿Qué opinan los colegas comprados? ¿Superamos la barrera de los 40? Es bien fuerte la resistencia en ese valor… Sin embargo, se vienen grandes números para la empresa por el aumento de venta de maquinaria.

    • Héctor

      Sirth,

      Te contesto de mi parte, a más tardar, para mi los primeros días de Mayo AGRO rompe los $40 de un pestañeo, se viene un trimestral etratosférico, tengo un 30% de pelotas en ésta empresa fantástica.

      Slds

  19. SIRTHOMASMORE

    BRIO. Concuerdo, Barandista. Tengo y guardo, cuando agacha, compro, es una de mis intocables. El tema es que cuando supera los 30, salen unos HDP a vender a mansalva. Otro papel para pacientes, pero es un BCO de la reputa madre. Si la Tía Alicia se decide a pagarme los haberes de marzo, compro algo más a la brevedad.

  20. Ruben

    Erar no es mal papel pero a mi gusto es una tortuga no sé si me entiendes…!!!
    AEN le veo muchísimo recorrido, hoy dude en pelar la cantidad en 7,80 y de un plumazo en un par de operetas me las peinaron, me dormí…!!!!
    El arbitraje me gusta, también tenes a Agro y JMIN con menos volatilidad….aunque la última hoy al cierre anunciaron q va a pagar dividendos y mepa q mañana se dispara mal….

    • Oso

      Muchas gracias Rubén. Si estoy pensando en arbitrar las erar pero como las tengo desde los 8 pesitos me da cosa. Pero esta muy frenada y es una tortuga como vos decís. En agro ya estoy compre un puchito el otro dia cuando llegó a 36 en breve como decís pasa los 40 excelente papel. Y obvio a full en Pampa te sigo siempre en rava aunque no posteó muchas gracias por la buena onda y la repuesta

  21. SIRTHOMASMORE

    AGRO. Rubén, gracias, pienso lo mismo… Gran empresa, creo que no falla, lo viene demostrando con creces.

  22. Ruben

    Oso, un placer compartir los post….!!!
    Pampa ya vas a ver a dónde se va en breve, mantenelas mínimo fin de año que la vas a juntar…!!!
    También te recomiendo JMIN…!!!! Y Ceco…..!!!

  23. Ruben

    Muchachos, no se metan con Apbr….por favor…!!!
    En nuestro mercado tenemos excelentes papeles si….!!!

  24. Oso

    Las Pampa no se tocan por un tiempo vengo cargando desde 2013 jaja y a ceco le tengo ganas pero cada vez q junto unos pesos agregó más pampas jajs

  25. Ruben

    Oso, perdóname pero ahí no te sigo, no me gusta…. solo sigo los papeles q mi intuición me dice…me marca y me convence y ……por suerte nunca falla….!!!! Cresy no me va como no me va Ts o YPF o Apbr por citar algunas…!!!!
    Eso no significa q no suba si,… no me gusta el grupo q la controla…simplemente eso…!!!!

  26. Oso

    Esta bien sigamos a full con Pampa que ahí no hay dudas . A AEN le ves mucho recorrido a futuro como paso con las energéticas ?

  27. Histórico1

    La misma recsluación de activos anunciada para CRESUD fue también anunciada para las otras dos empresas del grupo Elsztain: IRCP e IRSA que no subió y está muy atrasada.
    Yo creo que el mercado tomó en cuenta la noticia de recaluación de activos para CRESUD y no para IRSA la madre del grupo.
    Para tenerlo en cuenta.

  28. Histórico1

    AUSO hasta los $ 120 no para.
    Ya se viene la extensión del contrato de concesión hasta el año 2030 y una nueva escala tarifaria.

  29. Histórico1

    No olvidarse que su controlante Abertis todavía tiene vigente el juicio en el CIADI contra el Estado Argentino por incumplimiento de contrato.

  30. SIRTHOMASMORE

    APBR. Es así, Rubén, la “garota”, diría Pepe, esta para la mierda. Tremenda tendencia bajista, no la levanta ni Pele, con todos los quilombos de Brasil… Yo tengo un poquito, la voy a aguantar y esperar que se reviente bien abajo, para volver a entrar… En un futuro (de acá a un año o más) puede dar alegrías importantes, ya que no concibo Brasil sin APBR. Pero por ahora, mantenerse lejos, salvo alguno que quiera timbear con muy alto riesgo.

  31. Otro javier

    Rara vez consulto acerca de una entrada… pero ahora estoy en dudas… auso recorrió bastante ya… estoy evaluando pegar un tirito ($50 k), si se acerca a 110 más el div. En tres meses (fecha que pienso vender todo menos brio y Erar) estoy un 50% arriba. Drivers hay como para llegar a ese valor, pero con tanto recorrido y algunas tan atrasadas tampoco seria ilógico que después del 5/5 los gordos arbitren a estas y se desplome auso. Leo sus opiniones! Saludos!!!

  32. Javier Aguirre

    Ojo con las “momias con fundamento”, los fondos cuando supuestamente¡¡¡¡entrarian no van a pagar boludeces y dos empresas como Erar y Alua, estan muy atrasadas y con fundamentos, ideal para fondos extranjeros.

    Muy buena la nota Sr Tavares, yo estoy en Come, nos resta esperar, me comi lo de innombrable porque me creia que hablaba de Ctio, que hace mucho no la analiza, si puede…..en el foro somos muchos los comprados aca , por mas que algunos se enojen.

    Nos vemos,Javier

  33. Daniel

    Que buena noticia. Es lo que necesitaba ALUAR. Ser aliado del gobierno.
    Por suerte estos últimos seis meses compre mucho.
    Ojalá lleguemos a 20 para fin de año.

  34. Coco

    No veo nadie hablar respecto BOLDT y su toma de ganancia…

    Hoy retomará la tendencia? Opiniones?

    Un saludo!

  35. Héctor

    Buen Viernes Estimados,

    Por las dudas y para evitar confusiones, el Hector que publicó ésta mañana la noticia sobre ALUAR del cronista debe ser un tocayo mío (yo soy el que publicó ayer y días anteriores sobre AEN e incluso te contesté ayer sobre AUSO Daniel), para evitar confusiones ahora voy a publicar como Héctor L. De todos modos el Maestro lo podrá corroborar.

    Saludos.

  36. hugote

    Buen dia!!!! Que facil es datear a come…Esta siempre a tiro porque no subio nada..mato a todos sus seguidores y se la sigue nombrando como si fuera una empresa normal…hizo tantos cambios en sus actividades que me perdi a que se dedica…BOSTA TOTAL…que cosa fea…hace 2 anios decir al presidente de esta momia que iban a pagar 3 pesos de dividendo en efectivo ese mismo anio….mentira…nunca lo pagaron ni lo van a pagar….

    Como no subio nada y destrozo a la cta comitente del inversor…puede ser que ahora ….puede ser…en boca del mentiroso lo cierto se hace dudoso…
    Merval 27000-30000..exuberancia irracional…que lastima que come no desaparecio de la bolsa anios atras cuando la fundieron….nos ahorrabamos dolores de cabeza…

  37. EL CRIPTEX

    Buenos dias a todos los foristas: Reproduzco noticia de hoy en El Cronista sobre CAPEX:

    http://www.cronista.com/negocios/Capex-obtuvo-concesion-para-explotar-gas-en-Vaca-Muerta-e-invertira-us-1.536-millones-20170421-0067.html

    El gobierno neuquino aprobó el otorgamiento de una concesión de explotación de gas no convencional en el yacimiento hidcorcarburífero provincial de Vaca Muerta, por 35 años, a la empresa petrolera Capex que invertirá u$s 1.536 millones en el lugar, se informó hoy.

    La autorización fue comunicada por el gerente de Compras y Contrataciones de Capex, José Luis Laudano, a la Comisión Nacional de Valores (CNV) y a la Bolsa de Comercio de Buenos Aires.

    “La sociedad fue notificada del Decreto 0556/17 de la Provincia de Neuquén que aprueba el otorgamiento a su favor de una concesión de explotación no convencional sobre toda el área Agua del Cajón, por un plazo de 35 a contar a partir de la fecha”, precisó Laudano.

    CORDIALES SALUDOS.

  38. EL CRIPTEX

    También paso nota sobre TRANSENER:

    http://www.cronista.com/economiapolitica/Transener-envian-exhortos-en-busca-de-informacion-por-supuesto-pago-de-sobornos-20170421-0064.html

    El juez federal Sebastián Ramos envió hoy sendos exhortos a Brasil y Suiza en busca de corroborar dichos de dos arrepentidos en el escándalo del ‘Lava Jato‘ brasileño, Néstor Cervero y Fernando Soares, en el marco de una causa que investiga al ex ministro de Planificación Julio De Vido por supuesto cobro de sobornos en la venta de la empresa Transener, según una resolución a la que accedió Télam.

    • Héctor

      Ésta noche me descorcho un Pommery,

      Histórico1, Reich, Viento Salavaje, con uds había hablado días atrás en el foro, si están comprados los invito,

      Slds.

      • Reich

        Comprado hasta las pelotas, a mí anotame con 2 botellas. Disculpa la tardanza en confirmar asistencia pero estuvo ocupado con AEN, sabrás comprender.

  39. Einlazer84

    COME es uno de los peores papeles del MERVAL, solo MIRG, CELU y CTIO, andan peor que COME en los últimos meses.

    El tema que esta mostrando motivos para empezar a tener ganancias sostenidas en sus trimestrales, COME deja de tener trimestrales con resultados negativos y pasan a ser todos con resultados positivos asi no sea la gran cosa pero mete todos trimestres con resultados positivos y será imposible mantenerla entre $3 y $4. Mas si le levantan la quiebra.

    Hace años cuando estaba horriblemente mal COME casi en quiebra muy en el horno oscilaba entre $0,70 y $0,95, no salía de ahí, un par de años despues cuando el riesgo de quiebra y de desliste de COME desapareció porque la empresa mejoró un poco, saltó de $0,95 a $3,00.

    Ahí entro en la fase actual donde la estan peleando, mete trimestrales decepcionantes, alguno que otro que safa aparece a veces con algún dibujo pero en lineas generales no convencen los trimestrales de COME por eso no supera los $3,60.

    Pero eso parece que esta por cambiar porque se estan dando las condiciones para que COME no traiga mas perdidas y traiga ganancias sostenidas SIN que tengan que dibujar los balances, eso me da la impresión que puede pegar otro saltó como el que pegó de $0,95 a $3,00. Osea podría ir de $3,60 a $11,00 aproximadamente.

  40. hugote

    Me llama la atencion la predica de este foro por come…como fue por ctio…leo a un forista que vaticina 5,50 el papel de come y esto lo escribio tambien hace meses y meses…y si…cada vez esta mas cerca de hacer algo decoroso…ya es mucho danio el que hizo esta ameba mentirosa bursatil…ojala se de la suba…

  41. Martincho

    CTIO: hola alguien sabe si el fondo con el que se le dio manija al papel de verdad compra o compraba a 42 ? Creo que es el mismo con el que se le dio y da manija a COME. Tengo que decidir si vender o no antes de la asamblea de CTIO para lo cual necesitaba saber si me mintieron. Además también circula una versión de salida de ADR. Saludos

  42. hugote

    Yo comparo a come bursatilmente con poll que esta vaciada,sin actividad,esperando ganar un juicio,…un desastre…
    En cambio come tiene tantas adquisiciones y ventas y que se yo que estan haciendo ..que prefiero a poll…jujujajujaju

  43. Héctor

    Einlazer84,

    JAJA, no, yo soy discípulo del MAESTRO,

    Voy a empezar a postear como Héctor L. me parece para evitar confusiones con ese otro Héctor que posteó hoy bien temprano sobre la nota del cronista.

    Díganme si Huguito no tiene razón con lo que dice de exhuberancia irracional, éstos tipos no traen MONEDAS, vienen con LINGOTES DE ORO.

    http://www.inversorenergetico.com.ar/inversores-arabes-llegan-al-pais-para-buscar-nuevas-oportunidades-de-negocios/

  44. Agromaf

    Si yo también compre CTIO a principio de febrero por la noticia que se publico del fondo que compraba a 42, Me re cagaron, 3 meses a perdida y encima me perdí la suba de CRESUD la cual vendí porque le tiraban mierda constantemente y PAMPA vendí también porque hablaban pestes, que se caía hasta los 23 por todo lo que subió en poco tiempo. Como si fuera poco de CTIO nunca mas una nota o un análisis o comentario, nada! cuando antes eran 2 o 3 por semana.

  45. Héctor

    Miren a AEN, ahora me creen que se temrinó la corrección?

    Mis condolencias para el pobre tipo que vendió hace 2 días a $7.98 por consejo del BROKER, no te olvides JAMÁS que vos sos un CLIENTE más de los miles para tu BROKER.

    martin
    18 abril, 2017 at 18:54 – Reply

    Hoy por consejo de mi broker vendí AEN a 7.98 tenía una posición importante, pero hablando con mi broker llegue a la conclusión que era negocio vender.
    La inflaron mal. Esto no tiene sustento, tendría que volver a 4 en las próximas semanas.

    Martin
    19 abril, 2017 at 12:29 – Reply

    Se termino la mentira de AEN. Tenía razón mi broker.
    Era una suba ficticia para empolmar boludos.
    Ahora a pagar la fiesta de los gordos.
    Por ambiciosos.

    José Luis Manzano
    18 abril, 2017 at 19:07 – Reply

    Perdón, est-est-estoy medio tar-tar-tar-tamud-do.

    AEN AEN AEN AEN AENGAÑAR A TODOS LOS SALAMES.

    NOVATOS,

    Slds.

  46. Javier Aguirre

    No debatir el sexo de los angeles, Compra Capx y sentate bajo la planta a rascarte las pelotas, no hagas nada de nada ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ solamente rascate que aumenta y aumenta ….no inventes nada ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

    Nos vemos ,Javier

  47. Gustavo

    Ahora, está clarísimo que tener TGSU en la lista de 6 es lo que mantiene a muchos en los primeros lugares.
    Por qué carajo se habla tan poco de la misma, siendo que está en al menos un 30% de las carteras elegidas?

      • Pepe Argento

        Anda a cagar nunca la pusiste y venis a romper las pelotas acá.

        Sos gay con la aaaaaaaa tan pronunciada, buscate mis aportes y aprende primero a escribir, después aprende a escribir igual que yo, falta mucho para que pierdas la virginidad.

  48. el vengador

    andes energía valia hace un año 8 pesos y no la conocía ni montoto.macri da como prioridad principal a vaca muerta y allí andes energía tiene situación privilegiada y alianzas ya confirmadas con muchos millones de dólares.el minimo recién parece que lo esta pasando hoy.” empresitas” con minimas proyecciónes valen 30 o 40 mangos.pareciera que el techo de andes esta muy pero muy lejos de aca.ya sabemos que en la bolsa hay tomas,pero vale hoy menos de 0,60 centavos de dólar con ypf de socia y bancada por mercuria que es reconocida en el mundo.para darles mas confianza tambien cotiza en Londres.¿ hay tanto para elegir con tanto potencial a estos precios ? y va a entrar fácilmente al panel líder y en el mejor momento.

    • Héctor

      Si Sr.

      Creeme que está lejísimo el TECHO de AEN, sabés cuánto llegó a valer en Londres el 10-02-2014???
      Lo digo no lo digo…70,60 pennies! Hoy cerró cotización en 41.85 peniques en Londres para que te hagas una idea.

      Y eso no es NADA, en el 2005 llegó a valer 1350 pennies!!!! Es decir 13.50 libras esterlinas. Los que no tengan problemas cardíacos hagan la conversión en pesos acá, no se ASUSTEN por favor:

      Libras Esterlinas a Peso Argentino: https://es.investing.com/currencies/gbp-ars-converter

      Si tienen alguna duda de la conversión me avisan.

      Slds.

  49. SIRTHOMASMORE

    AGRO. Héctor, gracias por tu respuesta… Parece que va a superar los 40. Lejos, mi “papel estrella”. El otro PAMP, no falla. Javier, estimado, entre a tu CAPX, con poquito, con ganas de aumentar a la brevedad.

    • Héctor

      De nada Sir,

      AGRO VUELA, y CAPX, la vemos en el corto/mediano plazo/largo plazo en PLUTÓN o MERCURIO.

      CAPX es el FUTURO INDISCUTIBLE, como decía Javier pongan tranquilo que en unos pocos años son millonarios.

      El PROYECTO HYCHICO ( ENERGIA EOLICA + hidrogeno y oxigeno industrial TOTALMENTE LIMPIOS solo con Viento + Agua de deshielos)

      Un MEGA emprendimiento en el cual producimos Hidrogeno, un gas nada convencional y es el gas del FUTURO!
      Y desde el 2010 que hay empresarios japoneses interesados en explorar las posibilidades de potenciar y acompañar el proceso desde lo económico, OJO que éstos no son ningunos BOLUDOS! Por algo ya están metiéndose en nuestro terreno. Podemos transformar la MATRÍZ ENERGÉTICA de éste bendito país que vive a los bifes.

      Slds.

  50. Reich

    Forista de Rava
    20 abril, 2017 at 21:23 – Reply
    Esta bien Reina Rich, calmante… no generemos bandos

    Reich
    21 abril, 2017 at 06:38 – Reply
    Ja, ja, a Reina Reech un minon, no, pero sí conocí personalmente a Ambar La Fox, que pedazo de mujer, por Dios!

    Forista de Rava
    21 abril, 2017 at 11:09 – Reply
    Me quedo con Flavia Palmiero jjejej en la ola verdeeee

    Reich
    21 abril, 2017 at 14:22 –
    Che cuidate a ver si tenes un quilombo con el hijastro, jua jua, jua.

  51. Reich

    Tenemos una bolsa poco sería, todo timba, escolaso, no se puede creer.
    Un ejemplo: En el foro hay un genio, que no recuerdo el nombre, (habría que ir a archivos, pero como dicen los pibes “me da paja”, je, je), en un momento comente que no había más energéticas a menos de $ 10.-. Ese genio (“gente que busca gente”) me dijo que existía una ignota AEN, y valía moneditas. Me puse a trabajar, investigue, y llegue a una conclusión que publique y la hice famosa “le comprarían un auto usado a Vilas-Manzano”. Resumiendo a los poco días como buen boludo les compre varios autos usado a esos 2 impresentables. Hoy me siento contento siendo un boludo, lo que se dice un “boludo alegre” Gracias mil “genio ignoto”, quiero saber quien era (recompensare, je, je).

  52. SIRTHOMASMORE

    LA INNOMBRABLE. Hoy, tiene alerta de compra, pero, seguramente, las probabilidades de que haga un rally alcista, son las mismas, de que KJ me invite a garcharla.

    • Reich

      Sucede que garcha directamente con Bostantini eliminando intermediarios, por eso olvidate que suba,je,je.

  53. GBAN, la unica relacionada al gas REZAGADA relativamente.
    La demanda de ABERTIS(Ausol) entro en el CIADI(N.uYork) contra el Estado Argentino, el 15 de diciembre de 2015( una semana despues q asumiera la Presidencia M Macri) y actualmente esta en vigencia la demanda.

  54. el vengador

    Reich es Guillermo VILAS ( UN GRANDE DEL TENIS ). el otro es vila y aparte de llevarse muy bien con muchos politicos,tener mucha guita y ser un hábil empresario, hace pata ancha en mendoza y de postre se vacuna a la David ( que no es Nalbandian ). van a ganar fortuna los que no se tienten con el corto plazo.” es por varios meses,el papel ” después veremos cual es el techo y que parece muy lejano pero muy lejano aun.la bolsa gaucha es asi.fíjate los 2 pesos de agrometal, los valores que tenían las energéticas,etc y mil etcs .poco en bolsa con tanto potencial de suba como AEN.

  55. Javier Aguirre

    Sirth. amigo con Capx sentate bajo la planta a rascarte tranquilo, es el ejemplo de las 10 bagger de Peter Lynch.

    Nos vemos , Javier

  56. Rucula

    Al fin una noticia que la innombrable tiene vida…

    Me dirijo a ustedes en mi character de Responsible de las Relaciones con el Mercado de Consultatio S.A. (CTIO), a los efectos de informar que en la reunión de directorio del pasado 20 de abril se aprobó que la sociedad subsidiaria Consultatio Argentina S.A.U. proceda con la negociación con la entidad “JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A.” (“JPMorgan”) de un préstamo –en la modalidad de linea de crédito- destinado a la adquisición de distintos inmuebles.

  57. ELIO

    Kike, Si queres comprar CARC, compra cupones CARCX a $0.28, por cada 1.58 cupones + $1 suscribís una nueva acción a $1.44, en lugar de pagar 1.60 en el mercado a precios de hoy.

    • Kike

      Gracias elio x la recomendación. Pero en Santander río q es donde yo opero me fije y no aparecen las carcx… Estoy considerando empezar con un poco en algún broker x q es caro y no te brindan una buena plataforma ni nada…

      • ELIO

        Yo actualmente opero con IOL mayormente, pero tambien tengo algo en Santander, mientras este te cobra 1.30% final, IOL un 0.50% mas impuestos queda en aproximadamente 0.68% menos de la mitad, para hacer trading es indispensable,
        pero en este caso el Santander creo que te deberían permitir comprar cupones, quizá tengas que hablar por telefono para hacerlo y no por la plataforma, ya que para suscribir es necesario hacerlo solo por telefono, mientras que en el broker se hace por formulario, y en el caso de los cupones en este ultimo sí estan disponibles para operar por plataforma.

        • ELIO

          Lo que si hay que considerar que los cupones se operan con efectivo hasta 24hs, a diferencia de las acciones que se pueden comprar luego de una venta o sea 72 hs.

  58. Daniel

    ojo con eso de 75 peniques porque desde ese entonces se triplico el capital social de la empresa porque fueron convirtiendo en aciones warrants y deuda ojo

  59. Reich

    Héctor
    21 abril, 2017 at 11:03 – Reply
    Ésta noche me descorcho un Pommery,

    Histórico1, Reich, Viento Salavaje, con uds había hablado días atrás en el foro, si están comprados los invito,

    Slds.

    Reich
    21 abril, 2017 at 17:05 – Reply
    Comprado hasta las pelotas, a mí anotame con 2 botellas. Disculpa la tardanza en confirmar asistencia pero estuvo ocupado con AEN, sabrás comprender.

  60. Pepe Argento

    Se viene el polvazo en Consulchota, van a echarse polvos compren preservativo primero, deben echar polvos con protección.

    Nota en la comisión nacional de valores anunció de compra de terreno de la re puta madre 200 palos verdes en CABA prestamo del JP Morgan.

    La próxima semana en la Asamblea Bostastini brindará detalles. Parece le llega la hora a esta reverenda poronga que me hincho tantos los huevos que la vendí, tendré que pagar peaje al quiebre del máximo histórico.

  61. Pepe Argento

    Consulchota

    la suscripción de un préstamo J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, N.A. (Estados Unidos), en la modalidad de
    línea de crédito, el cual estará destinado a la adquisición de distintos inmuebles (entre ellos, el indicado
    en el apartado a) anterior). El capital de este préstamo ascendería aproximadamente a la suma de US$
    200 millones, tendrá un plazo aproximado para la devolución del capital de no menos de 2 (dos) años
    desde la fecha de su primer desembolso, devengaría una tasa de interés de Libor más ciertos puntos
    básicos dependiendo de las condiciones del préstamo, y contendría términos y condiciones usuales para
    este tipo de empréstitos, incluyendo algunas limitaciones impuestas por JP Morgan para asegurar el
    cobro de su deuda (covenants).
    Esta operación estará garantizada por Consultatio Real Estate, Inc. (sociedad controlada de Consultatio
    S.A. con sede social en el Estado de Florida, Estados Unidos)

  62. Histórico1

    Einlazer84, te aclaro que COME no estuvo ni está en quiebra y en la última asamblea realizada hace algo más de un mes levantó su concurso de acreedores con lo cual está totalmente limpia desde el punto de vista societario.

  63. Histórico1

    Reich, por supuesto que sigo en AEN y con una cantidad importante a un promedio de 5,50 (el mismo precio de hace dos años).
    Días pasados había augurado un precio de $ 20 para fin de año.
    Creo que fui demasiado conservador…..

  64. Kike

    Una lastima q estén usando este foro para el boludeo. Siempre trato de leer todo x q hay cosas muy interesantes y aprendo de muchos foristas q desinteresadamente aportan un contenido muy valioso… pero cuando esto pasa terminas salteando y salteando comentarios de gente q no tiene nada q hacer y se hace muy incomodo la lectura… Una pena… Saludos a todos… que tengan un buen fin de semana

  65. Histórico1

    Totalmente de acuerdo con Pepe Argento, se viene CTIO.
    El problema fue que Costantini tenía que vender para ampliar su floating a un 20%, al margen de lo que tiene la ANSES, para concretar su plan de cotizar en WS con la idea de ampliar su base de negocios en USA que ya inició en Bal Harbour y Key Biscaine.
    El miércoles voy a la asamblea de CTIO en el Four Seasons a ver qué noticias y comentarios hay.
    Por fundamentos y proyectos de negocios papel con altísimo potencial de suba.

  66. varandista

    La nota que salio el viernes cerca del cierre sobre Consultatio es para hacerle un post parte… Van a hacer un proyecto de una manzana en CABA y obtener 200 palos de credito del jp morgan.

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